UA-114288080-1 Attempt #004 - Nick Looijmans
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Attempt #004 - Nick Looijmans

March 12, 2018

My next guest Nick and I grew up in the same province in Belgium. About 5 years ago he moved to Ottawa work at Shopify as UX designer. We talk about the impact of leaving home behind and his transition from designer to a manager.